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	<title>Comments on: Steve Canfield and his marvellous mechanical joint</title>
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		<title>By: Once Upon A Time In Heaven: Commercial Space Takes Off &#171; Once Upon A Time in Heaven</title>
		<link>http://selenianboondocks.com/2010/06/cjoint1/comment-page-1/#comment-8859</link>
		<dc:creator>Once Upon A Time In Heaven: Commercial Space Takes Off &#171; Once Upon A Time in Heaven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 16:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] details a solution drawing an interesting innovation from his work on tethers&#8211;the Canfield joint: He called it a “Trio-Tristar Carpal Wrist Joint.” I thought that sounded like a real mouthful [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ed Minchau</title>
		<link>http://selenianboondocks.com/2010/06/cjoint1/comment-page-1/#comment-8833</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Minchau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like this design.  Look what happens when you connect several of them in series and drive them all at the same rate: ExtendaTruss.  This could also make serpentine robots easier to use and more capable.  Can you imagine what the nanotech version of this would enable?  Yoikes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like this design.  Look what happens when you connect several of them in series and drive them all at the same rate: ExtendaTruss.  This could also make serpentine robots easier to use and more capable.  Can you imagine what the nanotech version of this would enable?  Yoikes.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Sorensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk Sorensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he&#039;s interested in robotics, he ought to think about Canfield as an advisor for grad school.  Canfield does lots of robotics work, not so much aerospace.  I&#039;ve been the one coming up with aerospace applications for his ideas.

https://www2.tntech.edu/me/Faculty_Bios/scanfieldbio.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he&#8217;s interested in robotics, he ought to think about Canfield as an advisor for grad school.  Canfield does lots of robotics work, not so much aerospace.  I&#8217;ve been the one coming up with aerospace applications for his ideas.</p>
<p><a href="https://www2.tntech.edu/me/Faculty_Bios/scanfieldbio.html" rel="nofollow">https://www2.tntech.edu/me/Faculty_Bios/scanfieldbio.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Charles Grimm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Grimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Kirk, I&#039;ll give him a poke.  I&#039;d like to get him to work on space applications.  His master&#039;s thesis was on robotic joint movement with curved arms, if I can oversimplify.  Interesting applications, fewer motors for the same movements, which is why I forwarded the Canfield joint to him.
Since I haven&#039;t met Stephen Canfield, the best ME I&#039;ve ever met is my dad.  He got a dollar each for his pile of patents, including some for a process called Xerography.  (James J Grimm, uspto.gov)
I&#039;d like my son to follow in his grandfather&#039;s footsteps, but a recent grad recently married may not have space applications on the front burner :(.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Kirk, I&#8217;ll give him a poke.  I&#8217;d like to get him to work on space applications.  His master&#8217;s thesis was on robotic joint movement with curved arms, if I can oversimplify.  Interesting applications, fewer motors for the same movements, which is why I forwarded the Canfield joint to him.<br />
Since I haven&#8217;t met Stephen Canfield, the best ME I&#8217;ve ever met is my dad.  He got a dollar each for his pile of patents, including some for a process called Xerography.  (James J Grimm, uspto.gov)<br />
I&#8217;d like my son to follow in his grandfather&#8217;s footsteps, but a recent grad recently married may not have space applications on the front burner <img src='http://selenianboondocks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Sorensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk Sorensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a mechanical engineer myself, and Canfield&#039;s the best mechanical engineer I&#039;ve ever met.  You might suggest that your son take a longer look at the design.  Rotating the tether in the plane he describes isn&#039;t feasible for a variety of reasons.

We went through many napkins and a bunch of Diet Cokes to get to this point.  But he&#039;s invited to improve on it if he can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a mechanical engineer myself, and Canfield&#8217;s the best mechanical engineer I&#8217;ve ever met.  You might suggest that your son take a longer look at the design.  Rotating the tether in the plane he describes isn&#8217;t feasible for a variety of reasons.</p>
<p>We went through many napkins and a bunch of Diet Cokes to get to this point.  But he&#8217;s invited to improve on it if he can.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Grimm</title>
		<link>http://selenianboondocks.com/2010/06/cjoint1/comment-page-1/#comment-8780</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Grimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forwarded this to my son, the mechanical engineer, who had this response:

It looks cool, but it&#039;s kind of an overcomplicated solution, in my opinion.  If you replaced each of those legs with a prismatic joint, in the form of a linear actuator, then, not only do you have fewer things to worry about, you&#039;ve answered question #2: How do we drive this thing?

Anyway, the question itself seems flawed.  Why not take your tethered craft and rotate it in a plane perpendicular to the sun&#039;s radius?  That is, parallel to a plane tangent to the sun&#039;s surface.  Then, one side of your craft is always facing the sun, and one side is always away.

However, if for some reason that wouldn&#039;t work, and you only need to drive the panel through a few specific orentations, it would be a good candidate for a Spherical Four-Bar, like the ones I did in grad school.  The benefit being that it would only take a single motor to drive through the cycle, instead of 3.


Sounds like something that needs a few napkins and a beer to work through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forwarded this to my son, the mechanical engineer, who had this response:</p>
<p>It looks cool, but it&#8217;s kind of an overcomplicated solution, in my opinion.  If you replaced each of those legs with a prismatic joint, in the form of a linear actuator, then, not only do you have fewer things to worry about, you&#8217;ve answered question #2: How do we drive this thing?</p>
<p>Anyway, the question itself seems flawed.  Why not take your tethered craft and rotate it in a plane perpendicular to the sun&#8217;s radius?  That is, parallel to a plane tangent to the sun&#8217;s surface.  Then, one side of your craft is always facing the sun, and one side is always away.</p>
<p>However, if for some reason that wouldn&#8217;t work, and you only need to drive the panel through a few specific orentations, it would be a good candidate for a Spherical Four-Bar, like the ones I did in grad school.  The benefit being that it would only take a single motor to drive through the cycle, instead of 3.</p>
<p>Sounds like something that needs a few napkins and a beer to work through.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the coolest mechanical doodad I&#039;ve ever seen.  And &quot;Canfield Joint&quot; sounds like something out a Heinlein novel.  Excellent!

Is the</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the coolest mechanical doodad I&#8217;ve ever seen.  And &#8220;Canfield Joint&#8221; sounds like something out a Heinlein novel.  Excellent!</p>
<p>Is the</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Waddington</title>
		<link>http://selenianboondocks.com/2010/06/cjoint1/comment-page-1/#comment-8763</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent Waddington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 01:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s (very brief) mention of &quot;Electrodynamic Tether Propulsion. Artist&#039;s Concept of ISS Reboost.&quot; in the NASA Chief Technologist&#039;s town hall meeting. 

http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/457884main_OCT_town_hall_rev4.pdf 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btc70vURm4o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s (very brief) mention of &#8220;Electrodynamic Tether Propulsion. Artist&#8217;s Concept of ISS Reboost.&#8221; in the NASA Chief Technologist&#8217;s town hall meeting. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/457884main_OCT_town_hall_rev4.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/457884main_OCT_town_hall_rev4.pdf</a><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btc70vURm4o" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btc70vURm4o</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Sorensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk Sorensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey John, thanks.  I&#039;ll be talking about the gimballing thruster in an upcoming post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey John, thanks.  I&#8217;ll be talking about the gimballing thruster in an upcoming post.</p>
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		<title>By: John Bossard</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Bossard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should also be noted that Kirk was instrumental in putting together a program in which a small thruster could be attached to the Canfield joint, thus making a gimballing spacecraft thruster.  The thruster&#039;s feed-lines could be run up through the legs of the joints.  Since all joints are hinged, this configuration results in no pressurization-rigidization loads on the joint, unlike what can happen when using flex-lines.  This thruster on a Canfield joint was demonstrated with a small GO2/GH2 thruster in 2005.  It was recently publicized in NASA Tech Briefs, Vol. 34, No. 5, pp. 55.   
I don&#039;t know about the Canfield joint in general, but the gimballing spacecraft thruster is indeed quite available for general use.  Contact Sammy Nabors, MSFC Commercialization Assistance Lead at sammy.a.nabors@nasa.gov  Refer to MFS-32520-1.
Lastly, I will totally vouch for Kirk&#039;s comments about Dr. Steve Canfield.  Steve was almost embarrassed about the joint being called &quot;the Canfield joint&quot;.  But I think its a great name, totally appropriate, and way cooler sounding than the “Trio-Tristar Carpal Wrist Joint”.  Thank you, Kirk, for your support and dissemination of this technology.  Without you, it would not have reached the TRL that it currently resides at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should also be noted that Kirk was instrumental in putting together a program in which a small thruster could be attached to the Canfield joint, thus making a gimballing spacecraft thruster.  The thruster&#8217;s feed-lines could be run up through the legs of the joints.  Since all joints are hinged, this configuration results in no pressurization-rigidization loads on the joint, unlike what can happen when using flex-lines.  This thruster on a Canfield joint was demonstrated with a small GO2/GH2 thruster in 2005.  It was recently publicized in NASA Tech Briefs, Vol. 34, No. 5, pp. 55.<br />
I don&#8217;t know about the Canfield joint in general, but the gimballing spacecraft thruster is indeed quite available for general use.  Contact Sammy Nabors, MSFC Commercialization Assistance Lead at <a href="mailto:sammy.a.nabors@nasa.gov">sammy.a.nabors@nasa.gov</a>  Refer to MFS-32520-1.<br />
Lastly, I will totally vouch for Kirk&#8217;s comments about Dr. Steve Canfield.  Steve was almost embarrassed about the joint being called &#8220;the Canfield joint&#8221;.  But I think its a great name, totally appropriate, and way cooler sounding than the “Trio-Tristar Carpal Wrist Joint”.  Thank you, Kirk, for your support and dissemination of this technology.  Without you, it would not have reached the TRL that it currently resides at.</p>
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