Comments on: More Lunar One-Way-To-Stay (For-a-While) Thoughts http://selenianboondocks.com/2010/02/more-lunar-one-way-to-stay-for-a-while-thoughts/ Random Musings from the Warped Minds of Jonathan Goff, Ken Murphy, John Hare, and Kirk Sorensen Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:26:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ivan Vuletich http://selenianboondocks.com/2010/02/more-lunar-one-way-to-stay-for-a-while-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-7495 Ivan Vuletich Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:03:33 +0000 http://selenianboondocks.com/?p=1377#comment-7495 This all sounds like another version of the Lunar Monastery project outlined in that excellent rocket geeks handbook "The Rocket Company". Life is likely to be fairly monastic in the early years of such a project so sending the sort of people best suited to deal with the situation is a good idea. So maybe the Pope is the best person to make this happen :-) This all sounds like another version of the Lunar Monastery project outlined in that excellent rocket geeks handbook “The Rocket Company”. Life is likely to be fairly monastic in the early years of such a project so sending the sort of people best suited to deal with the situation is a good idea.
So maybe the Pope is the best person to make this happen :-)

]]> By: More Lunar One-Way-To-Stay (For-a-While) Thoughts « The Four Part Land http://selenianboondocks.com/2010/02/more-lunar-one-way-to-stay-for-a-while-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-7473 More Lunar One-Way-To-Stay (For-a-While) Thoughts « The Four Part Land Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:58:51 +0000 http://selenianboondocks.com/?p=1377#comment-7473 [...] More Lunar One-Way-To-Stay (For-a-While) Thoughts http://selenianboondocks.com/2010/02/more-lunar-one-way-to-stay-for-a-while-thoughts/ [...] [...] More Lunar One-Way-To-Stay (For-a-While) Thoughts http://selenianboondocks.com/2010/02/more-lunar-one-way-to-stay-for-a-while-thoughts/ [...]

]]> By: Jonathan Goff http://selenianboondocks.com/2010/02/more-lunar-one-way-to-stay-for-a-while-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-7459 Jonathan Goff Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:11:53 +0000 http://selenianboondocks.com/?p=1377#comment-7459 I'll believe it when I see it. They might be able to do a stunt mission by then, but it's definitely not going to be anything sustainable. ~Jon I’ll believe it when I see it. They might be able to do a stunt mission by then, but it’s definitely not going to be anything sustainable.

~Jon

]]> By: Pradeep http://selenianboondocks.com/2010/02/more-lunar-one-way-to-stay-for-a-while-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-7458 Pradeep Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:00:22 +0000 http://selenianboondocks.com/?p=1377#comment-7458 "I still think this is pretty much the only way that there will be a human foot on the Moon this decade. " No American foot maybe. But, the Chinese have revised their dates to 2017. So, there might be atleast a Chinese foot on the Moon before this decade is out and possibly an Indian one if they manage things by 2020, as planned. Interesting times. “I still think this is pretty much the only way that there will be a human foot on the Moon this decade. ”

No American foot maybe. But, the Chinese have revised their dates to 2017. So, there might be atleast a Chinese foot on the Moon before this decade is out and possibly an Indian one if they manage things by 2020, as planned.

Interesting times.

]]> By: Jim Gagnon http://selenianboondocks.com/2010/02/more-lunar-one-way-to-stay-for-a-while-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-7456 Jim Gagnon Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:04:58 +0000 http://selenianboondocks.com/?p=1377#comment-7456 It's interesting you mention Project M. It's one of the game changers Bolden has put front and center, as it allows a spacecraft designer to build ships suitable for humans yet still operate them via telepresence. Yet, the old guard sees red when you talk about Project M, as if they see it as a threat to human exploration of space; guess they're forgetting about that 1+ second time delay. As a craft designer, you should see if Project M is designing some sort of plug in interface between their robots and other equipment. The time delay will be impediment enough for flying a lunar lander around; anything you can do to remove the robot's mechanical delay can only help. The only other thing to think about is in-situ refueling. Even though the missions you envision are meant to be one way, your lander would be capable of long distance forays across the Moon as long as you can tank it up when you get back to base. Exciting times in space. Glad we've got guys like you stepping up to the plate. It’s interesting you mention Project M. It’s one of the game changers Bolden has put front and center, as it allows a spacecraft designer to build ships suitable for humans yet still operate them via telepresence. Yet, the old guard sees red when you talk about Project M, as if they see it as a threat to human exploration of space; guess they’re forgetting about that 1+ second time delay.

As a craft designer, you should see if Project M is designing some sort of plug in interface between their robots and other equipment. The time delay will be impediment enough for flying a lunar lander around; anything you can do to remove the robot’s mechanical delay can only help.

The only other thing to think about is in-situ refueling. Even though the missions you envision are meant to be one way, your lander would be capable of long distance forays across the Moon as long as you can tank it up when you get back to base.

Exciting times in space. Glad we’ve got guys like you stepping up to the plate.

]]> By: Trent Waddington http://selenianboondocks.com/2010/02/more-lunar-one-way-to-stay-for-a-while-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-7455 Trent Waddington Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:25:18 +0000 http://selenianboondocks.com/?p=1377#comment-7455 Jon, I was jokingly referring to Dave's contributing to Team FREDNET. Jon, I was jokingly referring to Dave’s contributing to Team FREDNET.

]]> By: Marcel F. Williams http://selenianboondocks.com/2010/02/more-lunar-one-way-to-stay-for-a-while-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-7453 Marcel F. Williams Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:26:44 +0000 http://selenianboondocks.com/?p=1377#comment-7453 That's why its cheaper to go to the Moon and to Mars to stay rather than to simply explore for a few days or a few weeks. I conducted a poll on the Daily Kos a few months ago asking people how long they'd be willing to live and work on the surface of the Moon. The results were very interesting with 70% saying that they'd be willing to spend a year or more on the lunar surface. 38%, however, shocked me by saying they'd be willing to stay on the Moon-- forever! http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/9/25/786215/-Funding-NASAs-Future That’s why its cheaper to go to the Moon and to Mars to stay rather than to simply explore for a few days or a few weeks.

I conducted a poll on the Daily Kos a few months ago asking people how long they’d be willing to live and work on the surface of the Moon. The results were very interesting with 70% saying that they’d be willing to spend a year or more on the lunar surface. 38%, however, shocked me by saying they’d be willing to stay on the Moon– forever!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/9/25/786215/-Funding-NASAs-Future

]]> By: kert http://selenianboondocks.com/2010/02/more-lunar-one-way-to-stay-for-a-while-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-7451 kert Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:59:03 +0000 http://selenianboondocks.com/?p=1377#comment-7451 http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/21/toyota-partner-robots-heading-to-the-moon-offworld-colonies-ine/ http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/21/toyota-partner-robots-heading-to-the-moon-offworld-colonies-ine/

]]> By: Frank Glover http://selenianboondocks.com/2010/02/more-lunar-one-way-to-stay-for-a-while-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-7450 Frank Glover Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:26:36 +0000 http://selenianboondocks.com/?p=1377#comment-7450 I'm reminded of the 1968 movie 'Countdown' (I never read 'The Pilgrim Project' [1965] on which it's based) which was also the 'send someone one-way to the Moon now (before the Soviets, in this case), and keep him re-supplied until return technology is ready' concept... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countdown_%281968_film%29 I’m reminded of the 1968 movie ‘Countdown’ (I never read ‘The Pilgrim Project’ [1965] on which it’s based) which was also the ‘send someone one-way to the Moon now (before the Soviets, in this case), and keep him re-supplied until return technology is ready’ concept…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countdown_%281968_film%29

]]> By: one http://selenianboondocks.com/2010/02/more-lunar-one-way-to-stay-for-a-while-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-7449 one Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:08:32 +0000 http://selenianboondocks.com/?p=1377#comment-7449 "I’ve been advocating something along this line for over a decade." probably everything was already invented in '50s by Von Brahun... :) what I've advocated from 2005 isn't a generic "long travel on the Moon" but an architecture's change of the (just released) VSE/ESAS plan however, I can't be so "famous" if you write "Morano" instead of "Marano"... :) “I’ve been advocating something along this line for over a decade.”

probably everything was already invented in ’50s by Von Brahun… :)

what I’ve advocated from 2005 isn’t a generic “long travel on the Moon” but an architecture’s change of the (just released) VSE/ESAS plan

however, I can’t be so “famous” if you write “Morano” instead of “Marano”… :)

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