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		<title>By: Jim Muncy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Muncy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monte, &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;    It was indeed naive for us to think that Apollo&#039;s technologies would lead to Pan Am Clippers to space... just as it was naive to imagine that Apollo was about opening a door to the space frontier, as opposed to punching a tiny hole in the wall before the Soviets did.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;    That said, the instinctive American view of space as a place we should be able to go is not wrong... it was simply wrong to think that we could get there on bureaucratic autopilot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monte, </p>
<p>    It was indeed naive for us to think that Apollo&#8217;s technologies would lead to Pan Am Clippers to space&#8230; just as it was naive to imagine that Apollo was about opening a door to the space frontier, as opposed to punching a tiny hole in the wall before the Soviets did.  </p>
<p>    That said, the instinctive American view of space as a place we should be able to go is not wrong&#8230; it was simply wrong to think that we could get there on bureaucratic autopilot.</p>
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		<title>By: Monte Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monte Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Back in &#039;98, when I was 18 and first starting to seriously try to get involved with this whole commercial space thing (ironically enough, as part of Len&#039;s X-Van 2001 project), I really thought that things were on the cusp of taking off.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I could substitute &#039;68, when I was 18 and few questioned the trajectory implied by the Pan Am orbital shuttle in &lt;i&gt;2001&lt;/i&gt;. (Pan Am was a commercial airline of the day, young&#039;uns.) Of &lt;b&gt;course&lt;/b&gt; private enterprise would pick up the technology and run with it, and of &lt;b&gt;course&lt;/b&gt; it would get better and cheaper and more versatile as aviation had, and of &lt;b&gt;course&lt;/b&gt; new markets would burgeon as it did.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As far as I can see, most space fans still take that alternate history as their default -- i.e., it &lt;b&gt;should&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;would&lt;/b&gt; have happened if NASA (or Congress) (or cheapskate Nixon, or  technology-hating liberals) (or a feckless public) hadn&#039;t derailed it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Me, I think those are comforting fables: that the space technologies of 1968 really did have -- and have today -- a lot less headroom for order-of-magnitude improvements than those of aviation in 1910. Ditto for the economics of space access vs. those of nascent aviation markets. But I am encouraged that some, like you, are willing to look squarely at how hard it is and stick with it anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Back in &#8217;98, when I was 18 and first starting to seriously try to get involved with this whole commercial space thing (ironically enough, as part of Len&#8217;s X-Van 2001 project), I really thought that things were on the cusp of taking off.</i></p>
<p>I could substitute &#8217;68, when I was 18 and few questioned the trajectory implied by the Pan Am orbital shuttle in <i>2001</i>. (Pan Am was a commercial airline of the day, young&#8217;uns.) Of <b>course</b> private enterprise would pick up the technology and run with it, and of <b>course</b> it would get better and cheaper and more versatile as aviation had, and of <b>course</b> new markets would burgeon as it did.</p>
<p>As far as I can see, most space fans still take that alternate history as their default &#8212; i.e., it <b>should</b> and <b>would</b> have happened if NASA (or Congress) (or cheapskate Nixon, or  technology-hating liberals) (or a feckless public) hadn&#8217;t derailed it.</p>
<p>Me, I think those are comforting fables: that the space technologies of 1968 really did have &#8212; and have today &#8212; a lot less headroom for order-of-magnitude improvements than those of aviation in 1910. Ditto for the economics of space access vs. those of nascent aviation markets. But I am encouraged that some, like you, are willing to look squarely at how hard it is and stick with it anyway.</p>
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